Wednesday 9 May 2007
Is it right to involve children in such a way ?...
The Israeli regime is cruel, careless and oppressive... but is it right for children to be taught messages of resistance like this ?
Of course, our media will inflate this to beyond it's relevance – after all we do love having an stronghold in the Middle-East... Oh, did I say that ? I meant... an 'ally' in the Middle-East. To be honest, I'm more worried about Israel nuking all the Muslim countries around it than I am that a child might be slightly more likely to RESIST ITS OPPRESSORS. Not that this is the same as Occupied Europe (in the Second World War) and the American War of Independence etc. .... No, they must be submissive, and enjoy suffering.
"It's not just Mickey, it's indoctrinating children like this, teaching them to be evil. The world loves children and this is just going against the grain of humanity ... What we're dealing with here is pure evil and you can't ignore that." -Diane Disney Miller
As is demonstrated by both sides of this conflict : the concept of Good and Evil is a dangerous invention of Judaeo-Christianity that has caused countless wars for the past 2000 years. (And it started by invading Northern Europe and eradicating our old culture and ways.) Now we have wars like this – between two religions that are effectively the same – Judaism and Islam.
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Teaching them to be evil or teaching them to stand up for themselves - 'good' and 'evil' are subjective terms used to claim moral authority for an argument, which basically means, if you have to resort to going 'that's evil!!11!' then you are a fucktard who is incapable of arguing. Or an american.
*insert fun 'es war einmal...' quote*
In short, you should die.
Vive la resistance - to be fair, no child there is going to need to be 'taught' messages of resistance - they are perfectly capable of seeing what's going on around them, they will react, the future is theirs.
Sorry I'm not in your comms group, but if you don't make some thing invite only...
Terror Über Alles, Käfer !
Es War Einmal
Are we, perhaps, a little too Nietzschean at times ? ... Incidentally, I'm drafting my letter to the world leaders right now !
FYI : That's a fan-vid, Samsas Traum have no musicvideos.
Käfer knows this (for she knows all mwahahaha) but the sound is abgefuckt, so it seems lame to her.
No one can be too Nietzschean. If anyone were too Nietzschean they would have wiped Amiland of the map - just for Lulz though.
Jörmungandr knows that the sound is not abgefuckte !
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"Geh in die knie
Wackle mit den hüften
Klatsch in die hände
Und tanz den Mussolini
Tanz den Adolf Hitler
Beweg deinen hintern
Und tanz den Jesus Christus"
-As always, DAF are relevant
That song is so random, remember when they played the KMFDM version on repeat at OOMPH! ?
I must say I don't see the relevence - but it reminds me, I learnt today that history is also subjective - today is the day the russians 'won' according to one girl in my class. They then proceeded to natter about it - polish, russians, the teacher who was obviously german, I believe one quy from the Ukraine - all of these countries have learnt a slightly different version of history (thus much bickering)
Anyhoos, vive ST and DAF
Dance the Mussolini... of course it's relevant. We have Mickey mouse being used as a preacher or resistance, and we have the DAF linking pop-culture (club dancing) with extreme politics (and both link 'extremism' and religion)...
Ms Disney Miller protests "It's not just Mickey, it's indoctrinating children like this." Yet Walt Disney used Mickey & co for propaganda purposes, especially during WWII. There was a film, for example, called "Der Fuehrer's Face." (1942)
The IMDB describes it: A marching band of Germans, Italians, and Japanese march through the streets of swastika-motif Nutziland, serenading "Der Fuehrer's Face." Donald Duck, not living in the region by choice, struggles to make do with disgusting Nazi food rations and then with his day of toil at a Nazi artillery factory. After a nervous breakdown, Donald awakens to find that his experience was in fact a nightmare.
This film won the animation Oscar in 1943.
For analysis of a different kind of Disney propaganda, see Ariel Dorfman, Armand Mattelart, David Kunzle (trans.), How to Read Donald Duck: Imperialist Ideology in the Disney Comic a Marxist/post-colonial analysis of Donald Duck comic books, noting their endorsement of business values and their attitude to "natives".
The book says:
"Children's comics are devised by adults, whose work is determined and justified by their idea of what a child is or should be. ...These adults are not about to tell stories which would jeopardize the future they are planning for their children."
Na ja, good point. Except that one actively wishes to influence people and the other it meant to reflect on something else - similar ideas, different motives.
And Mr S. is correct, all things made for kids are made to enforce our ideals on to them. One could argue that this therefore is slightly more honest.
And shouldn't you both be in bed - you have school tomorrow!
And this leads nicely on to Boyd Rice's 'Total War' – it seems that the Neofolk genre tends to fit this subject matter very nicely, especially NON's material...
Anyhow : both, 'Der Führer's Face' and the Palestinian Mickey Mouse are propaganda films aimed at children – the difference is that 'Der Führer's Face' was produced by the Americans, ON WHOSE SIDE WE WERE ON, during World War Two. (okay, there are other differences, but I find this to be the most significant).
Great debate – involving Samsas Traum (ich liebe ST), DAF, NON (Boyd Rice)... I could so easily bring in Laibach, but I shall restrain myself.
I was waiting for Laibach. And an opportunity to bring up Varg (possibly as some insult directed at you) but alas, we are out of time.
Is it technically a debate if all sides agree?
And everything is propaganda, surely?
1. The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause.
Whether from a state or a single person, it's all trying to push one side of the argument - one person's view. You putting that up was propaganda...
Oh, of course, I love propaganda !
As for Varg [Vikernes]... We all (well, maybe not those who are not familiar with him) know what he would say about the "Jew Press" (even quoting that makes me feel dirty). (!)
Good, it is complete!
when ever you feel dirty about quoting Varg just remember: Burzum, Burzum, Burzum. [hint: ST MS pix :)]
Yeah, but if I was to write my influences down I could not deny Burzum, or Varg (I DO NOT AGREE WITH VARG ON ISSUES OF RACE – I merely enjoy to read his material) ! Which is worrying...
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Yea, I noticed he's your first influence on Myspace...but Alex K. likes him, so I guess he can't be that bad :P
I love that 'I'm not racist! Honest!'
We know you aren't hunny, it's just fact that the most interesting people have strange beliefs *hugs*
Gute Nacht *Gutenachtkuss*
Wir nehmen Debatte später wieder auf !
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